{"id":5522,"date":"2020-04-24T05:00:50","date_gmt":"2020-04-24T04:00:50","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/theophilelancien.org\/?p=5522\/"},"modified":"2024-03-06T10:05:38","modified_gmt":"2024-03-06T09:05:38","slug":"transmission-maitres-deepen-1","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/theophilelancien.org\/en\/transmission-maitres-deepen-1\/","title":{"rendered":"Deepening 1- The quality of a Master"},"content":{"rendered":"<h3 style=\"text-align: left;\"><em><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><a style=\"color: #0000ff;\" href=\"https:\/\/theophilelancien.org\/en\/transmission-masters\/\">The quality of a Master<\/a><\/span><\/em><\/h3>\n<p>[&#8230;] What is a Master valued for?<\/p>\n<p>A Master\u2019s worth is his capacity to merge into God and to no longer exist. Here again, that can be found in our spiritual traditions: <em>fana<\/em> (in Sufism), self-annihilation (among Christians), <em>pralaya<\/em> (for Yogis and the Vedanta). There is always the very idea that we should no longer exist, that one should annihilate one\u2019s self into God and make that self disappear.<\/p>\n<p>What will be left, then? God and only God.<\/p>\n<p>The greatest Masters, whatever their approaches or the path they followed, have all developed their total capacity to annihilate the self (<em>fana al fana<\/em>). When they are performing their spiritual work, they are no longer there.<\/p>\n<p>Is a spiritual Master perfect? No, he can\u2019t be perfect since he is human and perfection does not belong here below. Only God is perfect.<\/p>\n<p>Where does perfection abide then? When the self disappears, God is there. [&#8230;]<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: right;\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><a style=\"color: #0000ff;\" href=\"https:\/\/theophilelancien.org\/en\/transmission-masters\/\">Excerpt of&nbsp;<em>Transmission and Masters<\/em><br \/>\n(Read more)<\/a><\/span><\/p>\n<hr>\n<h3><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">Let us read even further about the issue:<\/span><\/h3>\n<ul>\n<li><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><a style=\"color: #0000ff;\" href=\"https:\/\/theophilelancien.org\/en\/masters-future\/\"><em>MASTERS OF THE FUTURE<\/em><\/a><\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>[\u2026]&nbsp;Theo. \u2013 Now tell me, why should the Masters have to come back and live with us after they have attained that high level?<\/p>\n<p>The Elder \u2013 They willingly offer themselves to humankind. They are like vessels we are invited to board in order to return to the Source, to God.<\/p>\n<p>Theo. \u2013 Does it take a long time?<\/p>\n<p>The Elder \u2013 No more than an instant. God and only Him inhabits their interiority. The Masters welcome us with Love into their hearts.<\/p>\n<p>Theo. \u2013 Hearts they have already offered to God!<\/p>\n<p>The Elder \u2013 Hearts that have been totally offered and accepted. God dwells there permanently and forever, and from these offered hearts He can rule the human beings&#8217; world. [\u2026]<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: right;\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><a style=\"color: #0000ff;\" href=\"https:\/\/theophilelancien.org\/en\/masters-future\/\">(Read more)<\/a><\/span><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><a style=\"color: #0000ff;\" href=\"https:\/\/theophilelancien.org\/en\/couriers-for-souls\/\"><em>SOME COURRIERS FOR OUR SOULS<\/em><\/a><\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>[\u2026]&nbsp;Theo. \u2013 As I understand it, any seeker, whether an aspirant or a disciple, may at any time join the Ultimate through his Master&#8217;s divine heart?<\/p>\n<p>The Elder \u2013 That&#8217;s it! The Master&#8217;s heart is just as a gate opening onto eternity, and as I usually say to you, the best key to that gate is Love.<\/p>\n<p>Theo. \u2013 Now what if the aspirant can&#8217;t open that door, supposing he doesn&#8217;t like the Master&#8217;s personality, for instance? How could he develop love, then?<\/p>\n<p>The Elder \u2013 That is why you must focus on Master&#8217;s heart rather than on the individual and the specific physical person you can see. But you are forgetting that, most of the time, the very personality of the aspirant is what constitutes the major obstacle.&nbsp;[\u2026]<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: right;\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><a style=\"color: #0000ff;\" href=\"https:\/\/theophilelancien.org\/en\/couriers-for-souls\/\">(Read more)<\/a><\/span><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><a style=\"color: #0000ff;\" href=\"https:\/\/theophilelancien.org\/en\/a-master\/\"><em>A MASTER<\/em><\/a><\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>[\u2026]&nbsp;Theo. \u2013 Your friend Malik had really clarified for me the high spiritual competence of a <a href=\"https:\/\/theophilelancien.org\/en\/masters-of-wisdom\/\">Master of Wisdom<\/a>, but the experience I&#8217;ve had in the mountain allowed me to access a dimension that left me completely amazed. Could you please tell me more about the idea of having a Master.<\/p>\n<p>The Elder \u2013 A Master of Wisdom comes down to Earth for a very specific task. It does not qualify him for any personal work. He is duly mandated. The ancient Taoists would speak of a celestial mandate. All Masters of Wisdom belong to a spiritual tradition. Each one of the Masters had his own Master, or sometimes several Masters belonging to that very tradition or to another one. He started with being an aspirant, and quickly became a disciple.&nbsp;[\u2026]<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: right;\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><a style=\"color: #0000ff;\" href=\"https:\/\/theophilelancien.org\/en\/a-master\/\">(Read more)<\/a><\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The quality of a Master [&#8230;] What is a Master valued for? A Master\u2019s worth is his capacity to merge into God and to no longer exist. Here again, that can be found in our spiritual traditions: fana (in Sufism), self-annihilation (among Christians), pralaya (for Yogis and the Vedanta). 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The Elder \u2013 Masters bring in solutions to the future of humanity; they go back in time and come to meet\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;Blog&quot;","block_context":{"text":"Blog","link":"https:\/\/theophilelancien.org\/en\/category\/blog-en\/"},"img":{"alt_text":"Les ma\u00eetres du futur","src":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/theophilelancien.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/03\/126-Les-ma%C3%AEtres-du-futur.jpg?fit=1200%2C574&ssl=1&resize=350%2C200","width":350,"height":200,"srcset":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/theophilelancien.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/03\/126-Les-ma%C3%AEtres-du-futur.jpg?fit=1200%2C574&ssl=1&resize=350%2C200 1x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/theophilelancien.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/03\/126-Les-ma%C3%AEtres-du-futur.jpg?fit=1200%2C574&ssl=1&resize=525%2C300 1.5x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/theophilelancien.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/03\/126-Les-ma%C3%AEtres-du-futur.jpg?fit=1200%2C574&ssl=1&resize=700%2C400 2x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/theophilelancien.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/03\/126-Les-ma%C3%AEtres-du-futur.jpg?fit=1200%2C574&ssl=1&resize=1050%2C600 3x"},"classes":[]},{"id":4349,"url":"https:\/\/theophilelancien.org\/en\/theo-trainer-10-meditator-aspirant-or-disciple\/","url_meta":{"origin":5522,"position":2},"title":"Theo becomes a trainer, part 10, meditator, aspirant or disciple?","author":"Patrick Fleury","date":"14\/11\/2018","format":false,"excerpt":"Theo. \u2013 During our conversations, you either use the terms meditator, aspirant or disciple. Can you explain the nuances in their meaning? Meditator The Elder \u2013 Meditators will practise meditation. They sound the practice to see whether it agrees with them, does them any good and answers their expectations. 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The Elder \u2013 The key to bhakti-yoga lies in equanimity, a subject we studied last time. Devotees are, first and foremost, naturally sensitive, and very emotional and loving persons.\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;Blog&quot;","block_context":{"text":"Blog","link":"https:\/\/theophilelancien.org\/en\/category\/blog-en\/"},"img":{"alt_text":"\u00e9quanimit\u00e9 bhakti-yoga","src":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/theophilelancien.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/134-%C3%A9quanimit%C3%A9-3.jpg?fit=1200%2C900&ssl=1&resize=350%2C200","width":350,"height":200,"srcset":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/theophilelancien.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/134-%C3%A9quanimit%C3%A9-3.jpg?fit=1200%2C900&ssl=1&resize=350%2C200 1x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/theophilelancien.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/134-%C3%A9quanimit%C3%A9-3.jpg?fit=1200%2C900&ssl=1&resize=525%2C300 1.5x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/theophilelancien.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/134-%C3%A9quanimit%C3%A9-3.jpg?fit=1200%2C900&ssl=1&resize=700%2C400 2x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/theophilelancien.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/134-%C3%A9quanimit%C3%A9-3.jpg?fit=1200%2C900&ssl=1&resize=1050%2C600 3x"},"classes":[]},{"id":2538,"url":"https:\/\/theophilelancien.org\/en\/a-master\/","url_meta":{"origin":5522,"position":4},"title":"A Master","author":"Patrick Fleury","date":"03\/06\/2017","format":false,"excerpt":"After the experience he had in the mountain, Theo would like to develop further the notion of having a Master. 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