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Theo. \u2013 When you told me I should rely on my inner Master, I had several options in mind: the heart and its source of light, the Master, or the Inner Master. As for you, you generally evoke the Master, the Lord or God. How to decide? Whom should I choose?<\/p>\n

The Elder \u2013 Choose what will naturally emerge from your heart. Here again, the choice is not mental and it has not been planned. Beginners will more easily meditate on the heart. Following their philosophy, they’d rather resort to the idea of the source of light within the heart, or to the divine light. It doesn’t really matter since their spiritual guide will have connected them to the Centre<\/a>, to the heart of their hearts, from the moment they were initiated.
\nWhen you turn on the light, you don’t think of the power plant electricity comes from. You just switch the light on.
\nThe persons more advanced in raja-yoga<\/em> will consider their hearts as the Inner Master and will easily take their spiritual guide, their living Master as their model.<\/p>\n

Theo. \u2013 As far as I understand, the living Master becomes a reflection of the heart, of the Inner Master. The disciple totally, spiritually surrenders to his\/her Master.<\/p>\n

The Elder \u2013 It is one of the easiest method to rapidly develop surrendering, Theo, particularly when it is based on love and trust. It won’t really work unless love is there. The Master is the epitome of Love. He makes sure your heart will become Love too.<\/p>\n

Theo. \u2013 Our relationship to the Master is a heart-to-heart one.<\/p>\n

The Elder \u2013 Nothing more than that!<\/p>\n

Theo. \u2013 Does the Master also give advice?<\/p>\n

The Elder \u2013 He mainly gives guidance. Educating our minds is only secondary. Raja-yoga<\/em> is the science of Being.<\/p>\n

\u2013 Becoming what we already are… of all eternity… Theo whispered.<\/p>\n

The Elder \u2013 At the last level, there is no more difference between the Master’s heart and the disciple’s heart.<\/p>\n

Theo. \u2013 What will happen then?<\/p>\n

The Elder \u2013 The Master has achieved the work God had entrusted to him. Then the disciple is directly connected to the Lord.<\/p>\n

Theo. \u2013 This is the second level in untethering the soul<\/a> (atman<\/em>) you told me about, what you called God’s re-creation.<\/p>\n

The Elder \u2013 It is indeed the beginning of a new great journey under the auspices of the Lord Himself.<\/p>\n

Theo. \u2013 And where does it lead?<\/p>\n

The Elder \u2013 It leads to God, to the Centre. What is most difficult to understand is that we don’t have to do anything, as He does all the work.<\/p>\n

Theo. \u2013 What need of a Master do we have then?<\/p>\n

The Elder \u2013 I’d rather say, “How does a Master work?” His work consists in withdrawing completely in order to make room for the Lord.<\/p>\n

Theo. \u2013 So, who needs him?<\/p>\n

The Elder \u2013 He is God’s perfect tool. The Lord uses his personality, his characteristics, to establish a contact, a relationship at the human level.\u00a0 That work may occur quite naturally at all the levels of the being.<\/p>\n

Theo. \u2013 By resonating, is it?<\/p>\n

The Elder \u2013 Among other means, yes! A Master will make use of every available tool, of all the means at his disposal to serve a disciple and help him\/her to progress further along the Spiritual path.<\/p>\n

Theo. \u2013 I remember that once you even mentioned injustice as a possible means, something I do find surprising, coming from a Master.<\/p>\n

The Elder \u2013 There may be a stage when the disciple gets stranded. All that he does is good, everything seems to be properly in place, and yet he does not progress anymore.<\/p>\n

Theo. \u2013 Did not I hear you praise motionlessness?<\/p>\n

The Elder \u2013 The Centre is motionless; hence it opens onto the Infinite, onto Eternity. As for the periphery, it is constantly, infinitely on the move.
\nOnce a disciple has been through a stage, a motionless instant follows, which only means that he\/she is getting ready for the next quantic jump.<\/p>\n

Theo. \u2013 And what about the disciple?<\/p>\n

The Elder \u2013 He just remains frozen, stuck fast. Danger comes when he remains entrapped in a sort of nirvana<\/em>, an ecstasy that won’t let him go away as it creates a sense of arrival.<\/p>\n

Theo. \u2013 It must be one of the eleven circles of the ego<\/a> Babuji<\/a> evoked. It’s a very subtle situation. Il makes me think of the avadhuta<\/em> he mentioned. The spiritual seeker is stuck in a region, in a sphere that is within him.<\/p>\n

The Elder \u2013 That is where a living Master would necessarily fit in. When the Master gets aware of it, he will ensure that the disciple leaves his spiritual prison and moves again.<\/p>\n

Theo. \u2013 It looks as if he were trapped in ice. Babuji said that yogis could remain stuck like that for ages.<\/p>\n

The Elder \u2013 Actually, everything is suspended within them and their minds are permanently in ecstasy.<\/p>\n

Theo. \u2013 What is the problem?<\/p>\n

The Elder \u2013 They have forgotten God and are still busy with themselves.<\/p>\n

Theo. \u2013 Just like rocks.<\/p>\n

The Elder \u2013 Yes! You can see it illustrated in Lord Krishna’s life when he was seen uprooting two trees within which two spirits were being trapped. That is the way he granted them freedom. On another occasion, he did it again by overturning a rock to free another trapped spirit.<\/p>\n

The Elder stood up to take that wonderful book about Lord Krishna’s life and left Theo puzzled and lost in his thoughts.<\/p>\n

Theophile the Elder
\nExcerpts from\u00a0Dialogues with Theophile the Elder
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The first one consists in using yogic transmission (pranahuti): before you start\u2026","rel":"","context":"In "Blog"","block_context":{"text":"Blog","link":"https:\/\/theophilelancien.org\/en\/category\/blog-en\/"},"img":{"alt_text":"160- Lecture-condition-mettre-\u0153uvre-r\u00e9sonance","src":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/theophilelancien.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/03\/160-Lecture-condition-mettre-en-%C5%93uvre-la-r%C3%A9sonance.jpg?fit=1200%2C900&ssl=1&resize=350%2C200","width":350,"height":200,"srcset":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/theophilelancien.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/03\/160-Lecture-condition-mettre-en-%C5%93uvre-la-r%C3%A9sonance.jpg?fit=1200%2C900&ssl=1&resize=350%2C200 1x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/theophilelancien.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/03\/160-Lecture-condition-mettre-en-%C5%93uvre-la-r%C3%A9sonance.jpg?fit=1200%2C900&ssl=1&resize=525%2C300 1.5x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/theophilelancien.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/03\/160-Lecture-condition-mettre-en-%C5%93uvre-la-r%C3%A9sonance.jpg?fit=1200%2C900&ssl=1&resize=700%2C400 2x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/theophilelancien.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/03\/160-Lecture-condition-mettre-en-%C5%93uvre-la-r%C3%A9sonance.jpg?fit=1200%2C900&ssl=1&resize=1050%2C600 3x"},"classes":[]},{"id":3880,"url":"https:\/\/theophilelancien.org\/en\/equanimity\/","url_meta":{"origin":4574,"position":2},"title":"Equanimity","author":"Patrick Fleury","date":"21\/06\/2018","format":false,"excerpt":"Theo. \u2013\u00a0There are so many aspects to be mastered in our lives that sometimes I don't know how to deal with it. The Elder \u2013 It all begins with the heart, and it all ends with the heart. Theo. \u2013 That's a good start! It sounds like a Japanese koan.\u2026","rel":"","context":"In "Blog"","block_context":{"text":"Blog","link":"https:\/\/theophilelancien.org\/en\/category\/blog-en\/"},"img":{"alt_text":"Equanimit\u00e9","src":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/theophilelancien.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/132-Equanimit%C3%A9.jpg?fit=1200%2C800&ssl=1&resize=350%2C200","width":350,"height":200,"srcset":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/theophilelancien.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/132-Equanimit%C3%A9.jpg?fit=1200%2C800&ssl=1&resize=350%2C200 1x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/theophilelancien.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/132-Equanimit%C3%A9.jpg?fit=1200%2C800&ssl=1&resize=525%2C300 1.5x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/theophilelancien.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/132-Equanimit%C3%A9.jpg?fit=1200%2C800&ssl=1&resize=700%2C400 2x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/theophilelancien.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/04\/132-Equanimit%C3%A9.jpg?fit=1200%2C800&ssl=1&resize=1050%2C600 3x"},"classes":[]},{"id":4295,"url":"https:\/\/theophilelancien.org\/en\/theo-trainer-8-reading-conditions-love-mirror-effect\/","url_meta":{"origin":4574,"position":3},"title":"Theo becomes a trainer, part 8, reading conditions: love and mirror effect","author":"Patrick Fleury","date":"10\/11\/2018","format":false,"excerpt":"Theo. \u2013 Approaching the chakras seems very technical sometimes. Are not there any other ways to do it? The Elder \u2013 Each chakra has its own energy. It will produce a specific vibration, which some people may perceive either as colours or sounds (sabda), or even as words or thoughts.\u2026","rel":"","context":"In "Blog"","block_context":{"text":"Blog","link":"https:\/\/theophilelancien.org\/en\/category\/blog-en\/"},"img":{"alt_text":"Th\u00e9o formateur effet miroir","src":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/theophilelancien.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/10\/144-Th%C3%A9o-formateur-8-effet-miroir.jpg?fit=1200%2C706&ssl=1&resize=350%2C200","width":350,"height":200,"srcset":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/theophilelancien.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/10\/144-Th%C3%A9o-formateur-8-effet-miroir.jpg?fit=1200%2C706&ssl=1&resize=350%2C200 1x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/theophilelancien.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/10\/144-Th%C3%A9o-formateur-8-effet-miroir.jpg?fit=1200%2C706&ssl=1&resize=525%2C300 1.5x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/theophilelancien.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/10\/144-Th%C3%A9o-formateur-8-effet-miroir.jpg?fit=1200%2C706&ssl=1&resize=700%2C400 2x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/theophilelancien.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/10\/144-Th%C3%A9o-formateur-8-effet-miroir.jpg?fit=1200%2C706&ssl=1&resize=1050%2C600 3x"},"classes":[]},{"id":4231,"url":"https:\/\/theophilelancien.org\/en\/theo-trainer-3-reading-conditions\/","url_meta":{"origin":4574,"position":4},"title":"Theo becomes a trainer, part 3, Reading conditions","author":"Patrick Fleury","date":"24\/10\/2018","format":false,"excerpt":"Theo. \u2013 I'd like to go further into the way we should welcome the newcomers who want to start meditation. The Elder. \u2013 You needn't know the persons who are in front of you. You just have to be responsive, both inwardly and outwardly. 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