{"id":4561,"date":"2019-01-27T20:27:18","date_gmt":"2019-01-27T19:27:18","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/theophilelancien.org\/?p=4561\/"},"modified":"2024-03-06T10:05:50","modified_gmt":"2024-03-06T09:05:50","slug":"masters-future","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/theophilelancien.org\/en\/masters-future\/","title":{"rendered":"Masters of the Future"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Theo. \u2013 We have often approached the concept of time or of abolishing time, but I would like to know what the expression &#8220;Masters come from the future&#8221; means.<\/p>\n<p>The Elder \u2013 Masters bring in solutions to the future of humanity; they go back in time and come to meet and help us.<\/p>\n<p>Theo. \u2013 Does it mean that they travel backwards, sharing with us the burden of the past while hoping for a better future?<\/p>\n<p>The Elder \u2013 Masters of Wisdom are no longer submitted to the past. They are free from all causes.<\/p>\n<p>Theo. \u2013 Do you mean that they no longer have any <em>samskaras<\/em> or tendencies, and that they are free of any karma? It&#8217;s very tempting&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>They Elder \u2013 They are also free of any temptation!<\/p>\n<p>Theo. \u2013 Then what of the law of cause and effect?<\/p>\n<p>The Elder \u2013 A Master of wisdom is an effect without a cause. Causes come from the past. So, for such a Master, only the eternal present does exist. That is why we can say that he is an effect without a cause.<\/p>\n<p>Theo. \u2013 Would then God be the primary cause?<\/p>\n<p>The Elder \u2013 God is the cause of the causes, the causeless cause that can produce all the effects.<\/p>\n<p>Theo. \u2013 He is also the effectless Effect then, isn&#8217;t He? We could go far following that way, couldn&#8217;t we?<\/p>\n<p>The Elder \u2013 Ad infinitum. The aim is to attain the famous unique flow Babuji used to talk about.<\/p>\n<p>Theo. \u2013 Hence the need for Constant Remembrance. It\u2019s becoming clearer now.<\/p>\n<p>The Elder \u2013 Exactly! You have understood the Masters of Wisdom&#8217;s teachings properly: if you live in Constant Remembrance, past won&#8217;t have a grip on you; it will only have effects without any consequences on your being.<\/p>\n<p>Theo. \u2013 Is that a sort of liberation?<\/p>\n<p>The Elder \u2013 Yes! When we are immersed in time but bear none of its effects, we are at the second level of liberation: we are in union with God. It is God&#8217;s Realization. When we are beyond time, as all great Masters are, we have merged with God. Merging represents the third level of liberation, if you can remember what I have already explained (<em><a href=\"https:\/\/theophilelancien.org\/en\/the-three-levels-of-freedom-part-1\/\">The three levels of liberation<\/a><\/em>). It is what Zero is when compared with the One.<\/p>\n<p>Theo. \u2013 Now tell me, why should the Masters have to come back and live with us after they have attained that high level?<\/p>\n<p>The Elder \u2013 They willingly offer themselves to humankind. They are like vessels we are invited to board in order to return to the Source, to God.<\/p>\n<p>Theo. \u2013 Does it take a long time?<\/p>\n<p>The Elder \u2013 No more than an instant. God and only Him inhabits their interiority. The Masters welcome us with Love into their hearts.<\/p>\n<p>Theo. \u2013 Hearts they have already offered to God!<\/p>\n<p>The Elder \u2013 Hearts that have been totally offered and accepted. God dwells there permanently and forever, and from these offered hearts He can rule the human beings&#8217; world.<\/p>\n<p>Theo. \u2013 Why can&#8217;t we manage to stay and dwell in their hearts?<\/p>\n<p>The Elder \u2013 That&#8217;s the problem. Some of us can do it straight away, but many others, like us, have to resort to the practice.<\/p>\n<p>Theo. \u2013 Could you explain please?<\/p>\n<p>The Elder \u2013 Thanks to our Master&#8217;s help, our hearts gradually become like his.<\/p>\n<p>Theo. \u2013 Through purification and meditation, is it?<\/p>\n<p>The Elder \u2013 Yes of course! It&#8217;s our part in the process; but above all, we prepare ourselves to welcoming the Lord&#8217;s Grace, the only one that operates.<\/p>\n<p>Theo. \u2013 Do you mean that it can take either an instant or an eternity, depending on our capacity to attract His Grace?<\/p>\n<p>The Elder \u2013 Grace will operate in and out of time, but a divine antenna is required for it.<\/p>\n<p>Theo. \u2013 And the living Master is that antenna, is he?<\/p>\n<p>The Elder \u2013 Somehow, that&#8217;s what he is indeed.<\/p>\n<p>Theo. \u2013 If I have understood properly, the living Master&#8217;s heart has merged with the Ultimate, and what we are offered is the merging of our hearts with Master&#8217;s heart. Is it the reason why we are invited to develop Love and devotion to the Master?<\/p>\n<p>The Elder \u2013 That&#8217;s a way to see it. In fact, we don&#8217;t do anything: Love, and only Love is what really operates. Then Grace can be poured into the aspirant&#8217;s heart. Grace can invest only the hearts that are totally pure.<\/p>\n<p>Theo. \u2013 You are talking about hearts, but what of the persons themselves?<\/p>\n<p>The Elder \u2013 Heart is the first stage where God&#8217;s love within man can be gained. Everything else will come out from it.<\/p>\n<p>Theo. \u2013 I thought a person had to be perfect in order to attain that stage?<\/p>\n<p>The Elder \u2013 Hadn&#8217;t you asked for shortcuts?<\/p>\n<p>Theo. \u2013 I guess that if we had to achieve perfection, in fact, we&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>The Elder \u2013 The aspirant&#8217;s heart will imbue and transform his or her entire being. That is the Way of Love, the Way of God&#8217;s Love for Humankind, the Way of the Masters&#8217; Love for their spiritual sons or daughters.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: right;\"><em>Theophile the Elder<\/em><br \/>\nExcerpts from <em>Dialogues with Theophile the Elder<br \/>\nTheophile the Younger&#8217;s initiation<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Theo. \u2013 We have often approached the concept of time or of abolishing time, but I would like to know what the expression &#8220;Masters come from the future&#8221; means. The Elder \u2013 Masters bring in solutions to the future of humanity; they go back in time and come to meet and help us. 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Such Masters are both on Earth and in the cosmic region. Some of them embodied down here to guide the human beings, others are able to materialize\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;Dialogues&quot;","block_context":{"text":"Dialogues","link":"https:\/\/theophilelancien.org\/en\/category\/dialogues\/"},"img":{"alt_text":"025-Ma\u00eetres-sagesse","src":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/theophilelancien.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/03\/025-Ma%C3%AEtres-de-sagesse.jpg?fit=1200%2C800&ssl=1&resize=350%2C200","width":350,"height":200,"srcset":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/theophilelancien.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/03\/025-Ma%C3%AEtres-de-sagesse.jpg?fit=1200%2C800&ssl=1&resize=350%2C200 1x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/theophilelancien.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/03\/025-Ma%C3%AEtres-de-sagesse.jpg?fit=1200%2C800&ssl=1&resize=525%2C300 1.5x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/theophilelancien.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/03\/025-Ma%C3%AEtres-de-sagesse.jpg?fit=1200%2C800&ssl=1&resize=700%2C400 2x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/theophilelancien.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/03\/025-Ma%C3%AEtres-de-sagesse.jpg?fit=1200%2C800&ssl=1&resize=1050%2C600 3x"},"classes":[]},{"id":4273,"url":"https:\/\/theophilelancien.org\/en\/theo-trainer-7-spiritual-position-reading-conditions\/","url_meta":{"origin":4561,"position":2},"title":"Theo becomes a trainer, part 7, spiritual position and reading conditions","author":"Patrick Fleury","date":"06\/11\/2018","format":false,"excerpt":"Theo. \u2013 Is there any difference between the spiritual condition and the spiritual position? Spiritual position The Elder \u2013 It may take quite a long time before you are able to really know where an aspirant is standing, spiritually speaking. Babuji himself said that had to spend a long time\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;Blog&quot;","block_context":{"text":"Blog","link":"https:\/\/theophilelancien.org\/en\/category\/blog-en\/"},"img":{"alt_text":"Th\u00e9o formateur 7 position lecture condition","src":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/theophilelancien.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/10\/143.jpg?fit=1200%2C439&ssl=1&resize=350%2C200","width":350,"height":200,"srcset":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/theophilelancien.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/10\/143.jpg?fit=1200%2C439&ssl=1&resize=350%2C200 1x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/theophilelancien.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/10\/143.jpg?fit=1200%2C439&ssl=1&resize=525%2C300 1.5x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/theophilelancien.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/10\/143.jpg?fit=1200%2C439&ssl=1&resize=700%2C400 2x, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/theophilelancien.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/10\/143.jpg?fit=1200%2C439&ssl=1&resize=1050%2C600 3x"},"classes":[]},{"id":4593,"url":"https:\/\/theophilelancien.org\/en\/great-beings\/","url_meta":{"origin":4561,"position":3},"title":"Great Beings","author":"Patrick Fleury","date":"17\/02\/2019","format":false,"excerpt":"Theo. \u2013 Last time you evoked the Great Beings who guide and accompany us through our journey to the Ultimate. 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The farther we go, the less practices are required, and the more things go in the way of God. 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