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Theo. \u2013 I have understood that different stages mark out the way our yatra<\/a> will gradually advance and how we have to go through each region. But you just told me that the divine Source itself is what really helps us, by meeting our soul and reabsorbing it. In such a process, what does the trainer\u2019s work consist in? The Elder \u2013 Work is far too big a word for it, though it is commonly used.\u00a0 Our existence is One, but it is also marked by many events and numerous lifetimes. In the so-called \u2018vertical\u2019 time, all these events are present at the same time: from the beginning of our existence to the Realization of the Ultimate. Theo. \u2013 And in our present time, we are situated at some stage in our existence, aren\u2019t we? The Elder \u2013 The Source and the Goal are ONE.\u00a0 As we bear them totally, we also are ONE. Our spiritual work merely consists in realizing it, then in living it, and that\u2019s all. Theo. \u2013 What do we do then in order to help the aspirant? The Elder \u2013 We prepare him or her to live that blessed moment, which is already there.\u00a0 We free the soul (atman<\/em>) of all the illusory coverings that could make it believe that it is not the ONE, the Source, the Origin, the Goal\u2026 the Ultimate. Theo. \u2013 It is there and it is not there. It is like a quantum leap made between these two conditions. I can understand better now the importance of cleaning<\/a>: it allows us to restore the original condition of each chakra and in each region. The Elder \u2013 We work simultaneously in the passing time and in the vertical time. Theo. \u2013 Then there is no obstacle left. The Elder \u2013 No, there is not. But there is a slow maturing of the being and of the successive liberations and realizations of the soul (atman<\/em>) until it has absorbed its true condition, which is purely divine. Theo. \u2013 Which means that we bear the entire creation within ourselves. The Elder \u2013 We are that creation. Our whole inner space belongs to the Lord. We are the Lord. Theo. \u2013 And our ego (ahamkara<\/em>) is supposed to have disappeared. The Elder \u2013 The Lord has integrated it. It can work perfectly under the guidance of the Will and of the Love God has for all His creatures, for all His creation. Theo. \u2013What impact does it have on the trainer? The Elder \u2013 When we are working on an aspirant, it is the Lord who is working on and within the aspirant. Theo. \u2013 And in practice? The Elder \u2013 It is not like in Ho\u2019oponopono<\/a>. You must free whatever is imprisoned, what is not in place within you. So, you won\u2019t feel you are working on the aspirant anymore. Theo. \u2013 Then we do need a pretty good dose of self-forgetfulness! And how do the spiritual transformations and the progress of the soul operate on the way of the yatra<\/em>? The Elder \u2013 By means of resonance\u2026the Lord resonating within us. Theo. \u2013 Can you explain how that resonance works within you, and how it is to be used, please? The Elder \u2013 Within me, I go from one chakra to another, from point 1 to Point 13, while suggesting that they each naturally resonate with the chakras and points of the aspirant who is sitting opposite me. Theo. \u2013 And when you are facing a group of meditators? The Elder \u2013 It is exactly the same. There is within me the advance of the yatra, <\/em>which is resonating with the meditators\u2019 chakras. Theo. \u2013 But they have all reached different levels! The Elder \u2013 It does not matter. The work will be done all by itself, in tune with each aspirant\u2019s needs. The dosage is perfect, optimum. Theo. \u2013 In this way, you can help them all meditate at the same time, whatever their spiritual levels, from beginners to disciples! The Elder \u2013 Indeed, but without making any of these differences between them. Theo. \u2013 Then your eyes are focused on the Lord and on nothing else, without any distinction, aren\u2019t they? The Elder \u2013 It is the akarma<\/a><\/em>, and the Lord\u2019s action is infinite. Theo. \u2013 Finally, we are the only ones who set those limits! The Elder \u2013 Our existence in this world, in these times, dictates its own limits. A baby will always require nine months for developing within its mother\u2019s womb, and the rest of its life for realizing\u2026 Theo. \u2013 Its destiny? The Ultimate? The Elder did not answer, but he let Theo visualize a being\u2019s life, from the physical aspect to the cosmic one, a life that comes entirely from the Divine. Spontaneously, the young man absorbed himself into Silence\u2026. And, when he thought the moment had come, he asked the Elder: \u2013 How did you discover that resonance process? The Elder \u2013 When I was in the presence of my living Master. Theo. \u2013 During meditations? The Elder \u2013 Strangely enough, I got aware of it at other times, when we were sitting around him in a harmonious and connected silence. Theo. \u2013 How did you get aware of it? The Elder \u2013 Through experience: we could spend hours sitting that way, in his presence, being motionless, speechless, and even thoughtless, absorbed in a deep feeling of wellbeing, of perfect balance, of a very great unspeakable simplicity. Theo. \u2013 What was it? The Elder \u2013 The Master\u2019s condition, the Centre being manifested, embodied. Theo. \u2013 Were you in the Central Region? The Elder \u2013 Every time, nearly every time.\u00a0 There was often a smart fool to break that divine moment and ask, for instance: \u201cWill you give us a meditation, Master?\u201d Then, our Master would stop it all and give us a group meditation (satsangh<\/em>). Theo. \u2013 I guess he would make sure you were all silent and fully receptive. The Elder \u2013 There were moments when, in his presence, Grace was pouring down on us. Theo. \u2013 Was it due to your responsiveness? The Elder \u2013 It was due to him, mostly. In order to pour down, grace demands extreme purity. So, I can see no one but the Master. He was whole-heartedly in resonance with our hearts. Theo. \u2013 For that group of yours, your Inner Master might have been responsible for it. The Elder (pensively<\/em>): \u2013 Maybe\u2026 When it rains, everything gets wet, all around\u2026 Theo. \u2013 Do you remember any other such exceptional moments? The Elder \u2013 I have a lot of such memories, because the Master\u2019s presence, his spiritual condition, will often activate that grace to our benefit, whatever our conditions and the progress of our souls in the yatra<\/em>. I can remember a very special experience I had. It was during the inauguration of the Satkhol ashram<\/a><\/em>, in the Himalayas. All the guests present were persons very dedicated to our Master\u2019s Mission. He was giving a talk in the meditation hall, and I saw him with my inner eye. He looked bright white, supernatural. Later, I asked him what it meant. He replied: \u201cPurity.\u201d I could see my Master as the Lord, and that is how grace had started flowing down upon the participants. Theo. \u2013 The Lord condition attracts grace, doesn\u2019t it? The Elder \u2013 When the Master retreats to make way to the Lord, then he is <\/strong>the Lord, and grace comes naturally together with Him. Theo. \u2013 Does that often happen? The Elder \u2013 Ex post facto, I think it does, but we did not know. Only that special silence we kept in his presence, some quiescence in our thoughts and a profound wellbeing would mark it out. Theo. \u2013 A sort of open-eyed samadhi<\/a><\/em>, wouldn\u2019t it? The Elder \u2013 You are right. He would train us for sahaj-samadhi<\/a><\/em>, because it would not be appropriate to close one\u2019s eyes and meditate in Master\u2019s presence without being asked to do it. But sometimes, our eyes would just be closing under the impact of transmission. Theo. \u2013 A sign that he was working on you, was it? The Elder \u2013 I can remember Babuji casting his eyes briefly on someone: he would never focus on the person for long \u2013 it must have been rude in his culture \u2013 but whereas he had cast that quick glance at him or her, the inner connection immediately indicated that such a specific work had effectively started. Actually, when grace was flowing down, both transmission and work seemed to be suspended. Time would stand still, everything would stop within us, and then grace would flow down. Sometimes, the Master would warn us, but not always. Retrospectively, I realized that it would happen quite often. All our bodies<\/a>, the physical, the subtle and the causal ones, were perfectly in resonance with him, with his own bodies, and we received that grace. Theo. \u2013 How long did it last? The Elder \u2013 As far as I know, it was very brief. In the Master\u2019s heart, it was permanent: all around him, a kind of good regenerating rain was pouring down. Theo. \u2013 That must be the reason why the aspirants intuitively want to be in the Master\u2019s presence. The Elder \u2013 The master says that one transmission is worth one thousand meditations and that a flow of grace is worth one thousand transmissions. I\u2019ll let you appreciate it. Theo. \u2013 Why does it have to happen during celebrations? The Elder \u2013 During bandharas<\/em> (important spiritual celebrations), grace flows for the three days they last. Theo. \u2013 Why on such a specific day rather than at any other time? The Elder \u2013 On that day, the master celebrates his Master\u2019s birth anniversary. It is an act of love, performed with a perfectly pure heart. So, grace flows down upon all the persons who are physically there and can then benefit from it. Theo. \u2013 What about those who are not physically there but are spiritually present in mind and heart? The Elder \u2013 They will benefit from an exceptional transmission echoed by tens of thousands of hearts, but as for Grace, you must be there. Theo. \u2013 But what if you are totally in His Presence? The Elder \u2013 Who knows? When we are perfectly in tune with the Master, so are our whole being and all our chakras. Then we receive the Master in his entirety. He gives himself totally, unconditionally and spiritually to all his disciples. What is the Master\u2019s is the disciple\u2019s. Theo. \u2013 What is the father\u2019s is the son\u2019s. Can we maintain such a condition? The Elder \u2013 We can, but not for a long time, unfortunately.\u00a0 I have observed that such a state will rapidly weather off. Theo. \u2013 Only the Master can keep it, can\u2019t he? The Elder \u2013 Only the Master in you can keep it: it all depends on whether our hearts have become the Master\u2019s heart or whether they are still ours. Theo. \u2013 We are working on that. The Elder \u2013 That is the role of the trainer, a preparatory role. To begin with, the Master comes as a friend, in order to visit our hearts. Satsanghs <\/em>and individual meditations greatly help living such privileged moments. Later on, we invite the Master for longer stays in our hearts, and in the end, He will dwell there permanently\u2026which is a blessed moment, the moment when He accepts our invitation. Theo. \u2013 And then? The Elder \u2013 It is to be lived inwardly. It is intimate. It is sacred. Theo. (pensively<\/em>): \u2013 As trainers, that is the condition we should work with, isn\u2019t that? The Elder (smiling<\/em>): \u2013 We are all striving for it. Being a trainer is a potentiality. Like everything in the Sahaj Marg<\/a>, that potentiality will have to develop and find its full expression, so that during any transmission the Inner Master should be the only one in command. \u2013 Then, it becomes \u2018a grace\u2019\u2026Theo concluded, pensively. To be continued…<\/a><\/p>\n

Theophile the Elder An excerpt from Dialogs with Theophile the Elder<\/em> Theophile the Younger\u2019s initiation<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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