{"id":4001,"date":"2018-07-27T06:17:42","date_gmt":"2018-07-27T05:17:42","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/theophilelancien.org\/?p=4001\/"},"modified":"2024-03-06T10:07:19","modified_gmt":"2024-03-06T09:07:19","slug":"advanced-practice-3-vertical","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/theophilelancien.org\/en\/advanced-practice-3-vertical\/","title":{"rendered":"Advanced Practice \u2013 Part 3: The vertical"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Theo. \u2013 After all you have explained concerning the advanced practice, I feel rather at a loss. I may be spiritually gifted, but I&#8217;m only a beginner. Did not you say I wouldn&#8217;t cross the heart region before several years? So I&#8217;m just entering a period when I have to work hard on the five elements of the heart and change my character, amn&#8217;t I?<\/p>\n<p>The Elder \u2013 You have to understand we can approach it at various levels.<\/p>\n<p>The first level is <a href=\"https:\/\/heartfulness.org\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Heartfulness<\/a>, which is mostly based on well-being and deals with balance, and with all the wonderful qualities of the heart, with communication and with empathy.<\/p>\n<p>The second level is more &#8216;trans-personal&#8217;. The seeker&#8217;s progress will show in the five elements and the quality of the inner vacuum attained in <a href=\"https:\/\/www.sahajmarg.org\/homepage\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Sahaj Marg<\/a> or in the <a href=\"https:\/\/theophilelancien.org\/en\/page-recherche\/#search\/Categories=Ho'oponopono\">Ho&#8217;oponopono<\/a> advanced practice formerly exposed.<\/p>\n<p>The third level is a transcendent one. It is a divine and direct level, the vertical approach <a href=\"https:\/\/www.sahajmarg.org\/babuji-maharaj\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Babuji<\/a> talked about. There are still <a href=\"https:\/\/theophilelancien.org\/en\/page-recherche\/#search\/Categories=esoteric+symbol\">many other stages<\/a>, but it&#8217;s only for information purposes that I am mentioning these three dimensions. There could be ten or more of them, or even only one, the Ultimate level.<\/p>\n<p>Theo. \u2013 As far as I had understood, it is a spiral progression, made in circles that are more or less close according to the aspirant&#8217;s growing capacity and willingness.<\/p>\n<p>The Elder \u2013 I also mentioned the way of love as an advanced practice. It goes through surrender, or even through the soul&#8217;s total submission to the Divine. How do you accept this last sentence?<\/p>\n<p>Theo. \u2013 Something within me has withdrawn from the idea of &#8216;my being ordered and of having to submit to an external authority&#8217;, but simultaneously something is telling me that such a guidance is all love and kindness and is probably a marvelous thing to be experienced on a daily basis.<\/p>\n<p>The Elder \u2013 You have just made your own assessment. See how differently your soul and your personality receive the same suggestion! Practice, which aims at harmonizing the body, will gradually align them. It unifies the being.<\/p>\n<p>Theo. \u2013 What characterizes the ego and how to identify it?<\/p>\n<p>The Elder \u2013 It wants to control all the aspects of &#8216;its&#8217; life, including the spiritual one.<\/p>\n<p>Theo. \u2013 And what characterizes the soul, apart from love of course?<\/p>\n<p>The Elder \u2013 Excellence and perfection.<\/p>\n<p>Theo. \u2013 Which also looks like some of the ego&#8217;s ambitions.<\/p>\n<p>The Elder \u2013 It is one of the incarnated soul&#8217;s aspirations.<\/p>\n<p>Theo. \u2013 What is the difference?<\/p>\n<p>The Elder \u2013 What do you think?<\/p>\n<p>Theophile goes within himself. He knows the Elder will let him access intuitive knowledge, as he has already done before.<\/p>\n<p>\u2013 Perfection comes from God alone, says the Elder. It is the reason why we&#8217;d better leave Him control our beings and all their <a href=\"https:\/\/theophilelancien.org\/en\/?s=envelopes\">envelopes<\/a>, in the likeness of Lord Krishna being the charioteer. Through the Divine, your own imperfection can lead you to perfection.<\/p>\n<p>Theo. \u2013 What does it mean?<\/p>\n<p>The Elder \u2013 It means that though your human condition does not allow you to reach perfection, you can realise Divine Perfection.<\/p>\n<p>Theo. \u2013 Here is another oxymoron: perfection in imperfection!<\/p>\n<p>The Elder \u2013 All these conditions are beyond human understanding. They are Mysteries we can apprehend only through experience.<\/p>\n<p>Theo. \u2013 Hence a mystical approach; \u00a0it is direct, by the grace of God, and the help of a competent spiritual guide will make it much easier.<\/p>\n<p>The Elder \u2013 It also depends on the road you have travelled all along your past lives.<\/p>\n<p>Theo. \u2013 Do you mean I could skip a class or a region?<\/p>\n<p>The Elder \u2013 If I&#8217;ve been able to initiate you and take you quite near to realisation, it is because you had almost completed it in your previous lifetime.<\/p>\n<p>Theo. \u2013 So?<\/p>\n<p>The Elder smiles maliciously:<br \/>\n\u2013 Seven years should be enough.<\/p>\n<p>Theo.&#8217;s enthusiasm suddenly falls apart<br \/>\n\u2013 Seven years &#8230; Oh my dear!<\/p>\n<p>The Elder \u2013 I did not say you could not approach your spiritual evolution simultaneously at all those levels.\u00a0 Just try and see which of them takes over.\u00a0 Then you will know where you stand.<\/p>\n<p>No one can predict how the Divine is going to work, how grace is going to operate. If you are brave enough, if you have the will for it, choose the vertical approach. It is not an easy way, but it is also the most beautiful one. It is a blessed way, and in this kind of approach, you will never be left by yourself.<\/p>\n<p>\u2013 I don&#8217;t really know what to think now, Theo says, disappointed.<\/p>\n<p>The Elder \u2013 Don&#8217;t think, then. Leave your intuition guide you. Above all, never let yourself be controlled by a theory, or by anyone. If I set a limit for you and if you believe in it, you will inevitably be limited.<\/p>\n<p>\u2013 And if I believe in boundlessness &#8230; I will be &#8230; in God!, the young man concludes, joyfully.<\/p>\n<p>The Elder \u2013 Yes indeed. Congratulations!<\/p>\n<p>Theo. \u2013 So, every one can choose that &#8216;Advanced Practice&#8217;.<\/p>\n<p>The Elder \u2013 Yes, of course! It is permanently open, but few persons feel like choosing it.<\/p>\n<p>Theo. \u2013 I am very enthusiastic about it, and etymologically, enthusiasm means &#8216;in-God&#8217;.<\/p>\n<p>\u2013 Then, ride the breath of the Infinite &#8230; the Elder finally says, feeling very proud with his prot\u00e9g\u00e9.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/theophilelancien.org\/en\/advanced-practice-4-non-practice\/\"><em>To be continued&#8230;<\/em><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: right;\">Theophile the Elder<br \/>\nAn excerpt from <em>Dialogs with Theophile the Elder<br \/>\nTheophile the Younger&#8217;s initiation <\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Theo. \u2013 After all you have explained concerning the advanced practice, I feel rather at a loss. I may be spiritually gifted, but I&#8217;m only a beginner. Did not you say I wouldn&#8217;t cross the heart region before several years? 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