{"id":3900,"date":"2018-06-26T19:06:58","date_gmt":"2018-06-26T18:06:58","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/theophilelancien.org\/?p=3900\/"},"modified":"2024-03-06T10:07:22","modified_gmt":"2024-03-06T09:07:22","slug":"equanimity-importance-presence","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/theophilelancien.org\/en\/equanimity-importance-presence\/","title":{"rendered":"Equanimity, importance of the Presence"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Theo. \u2013 Last time, you explained that we had to maintain that state of equanimity within ourselves. But you will accept, I guess, that sometimes such a balance may be affected, won&#8217;t you?<\/p>\n<p>The Elder \u2013 And then be restored, of course, by returning to the Presence.<\/p>\n<p>Theo. \u2013 Which means by re-connecting. But I thought that connection was irrevocable and could not be lost!<\/p>\n<p>The Elder \u2013 You may become unaware of it and start again living out of self-interest, instead of being centered on the Self, on the Lord in your infinite heart.<\/p>\n<p>Theo. \u2013 Wouldn&#8217;t the beginner find it easier to meditate on <em>atma-chakra<\/em> (point N\u00b0 2) and the more advanced ones to meditate on the thousand-petalled chakra (Point N\u00b0 10)?<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_2020\" style=\"width: 310px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-2020\" class=\"wp-image-2020 size-medium\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/theophilelancien.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/04\/yatra.jpg?resize=300%2C186&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"yatra heartfulness\" width=\"300\" height=\"186\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/theophilelancien.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/04\/yatra.jpg?resize=300%2C186&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/theophilelancien.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/04\/yatra.jpg?resize=768%2C475&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/theophilelancien.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/04\/yatra.jpg?w=899&amp;ssl=1 899w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><p id=\"caption-attachment-2020\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">The spiritual points.<\/p><\/div>\n<p><em>\u00a0<\/em>The Elder seemed to be pondering over it for a while and then he answered:<\/p>\n<p>\u2013 If an aspirant was permanently focusing on Point 2, he would lose interest in his daily life. I had that experience when I was younger. My Master had allowed me to access the cosmic region. I was out of the world for nine months: I had lost all desire to live downhere. My family life remained good and harmonious, I was doing a good job, my health was very good too, and yet I could only feel like being and staying in the cosmic world, far from this earth where I had become a stranger in a strange land.<\/p>\n<p>Theo. \u2013 And how did you leave that condition?<\/p>\n<p>The Elder \u2013 With my Master&#8217;s help, of course, and also by integrating all that he had given me, spiritually speaking, through \u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 and into my heart.<\/p>\n<p>Theo. \u2013 That heart you call the &#8216;great integrator&#8217;&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>The Elder nodded and continued:<\/p>\n<p>\u2013 The chakra of the soul (Point N\u00b0 2) will short-circuit the ego and nourish the aspirant with love. If he staid permanently there, the aspirant might be in a persistent vegetative state, and it would put an end to his human and spiritual evolution.<\/p>\n<p>Theo. \u2013 I see! You make me think of the two wings of a bird <a href=\"http:\/\/www.sahajmarg.org\/babuji-maharaj\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Babuji<\/a> mentioned: the material and the spiritual ones, which must be well balanced; otherwise, it would just be going in circles, in a material or a spiritual sense. Most of the time, it is in a material sense.<\/p>\n<p>The Elder \u2013 Life is all movement. The evolution of the individual soul (<em>jivatman<\/em>) means that the soul is moving through the chakras and through their spiritual regions.<\/p>\n<p>Theo. \u2013 That is exactly what <a href=\"http:\/\/www.sahajmarg.org\/literature\/ebook\/practice-of-sahaj-marg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><u>maxim N\u00b0 2<\/u><\/a> means (&#8220;Begin your mediation by offering a prayer for spiritual elevation in such a way that the heart is filled with love&#8221;). There, Babuji calls on all of us to never stop and be restless until we have attained the Ultimate Goal, our Union with God.<\/p>\n<p>The Elder \u2013 So, we must remain balanced, equanimous and keep still in our <a href=\"https:\/\/theophilelancien.org\/en\/category\/god\/centre-en\/\">Centre<\/a>, while moving on the periphery with the two wings of a bird.<\/p>\n<p>Theo. \u2013 As <a href=\"http:\/\/www.daaji.org\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Daaji<\/a> said, the bird&#8217;s tail is what helps maintain the direction.<\/p>\n<p>The Elder \u2013 You see, Theo, whatever our creator has given us has a value, and nothing should be spurned.<\/p>\n<p>Theo. (<em>cheerfully<\/em>) \u2013 But falling into place is quite a job, isn&#8217;t it?<\/p>\n<p>The Elder \u2013 If you do it from the Presence, in all equanimity, it is a fantastic experience. Then everything falls naturally into place and your life becomes harmonious. It takes on its full meaning and is really worthwhile.<\/p>\n<p>Theo. \u2013 What will happen if we don&#8217;t do that?<\/p>\n<p>The Elder \u2013 You know perfectly well. The individual&#8217;s tendencies will prevail and his ego and personality will do whatever they want.<\/p>\n<p>Theo. \u2013 Some people are quite happy like that, though; a lack of spiritual consciousness does not seem to bother them and their lives run smoothly.<\/p>\n<p>The Elder \u2013 Those who live in agreement with themselves (<em>swadharma<\/em>) and are in tune with nature can be happy. They are equanimous, in line with their own lives, in harmony with their relatives and their environments.<\/p>\n<p>Theo. \u2013 Just like some Animists or Shamans are?<\/p>\n<p>The Elder \u2013 Or like the persons who live in the &#8216;flow&#8217;, as we saw when we studied <a href=\"https:\/\/theophilelancien.org\/en\/category\/working-on-oneself\/positive-psychology-the-flow\/\">positive psychology<\/a>. They live the so-called optimal experience to the full.<\/p>\n<p>Theo. \u2013 I can remember that you suggested we should become an optimal person, a western yogi who would have discovered the key to happiness.<\/p>\n<p>The Elder \u2013 The difficulty lies in the sustainability of whatever the experience may be.<\/p>\n<p>Theo. \u2013 It is the same for the beautiful experiences I have when I meditate. I wish they would just endure&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>The Elder \u2013 Yes, but your life, your soul, have to keep moving forward.<\/p>\n<p>Theo. \u2013 We are like navigators who make a call at a port and stay in the country for a while in order to visit the place; but the call of the ocean is so strong that they have to be setting sail again.<\/p>\n<p>The Elder \u2013 You are becoming a poet, dear Theo! Actually, the atman (Paramatman) is the only existing continuity, the eternal Presence within our hearts. We think it is motionless because it constitutes the centre of our being, but life, our own lives, come from that very Centre.<\/p>\n<p>Theo. \u2013 As far as I understand, my mind being in contact with the Presence is what gives me access to the real equanimity, to benevolence.<\/p>\n<p>The Elder \u2013 Exactly! The Presence unfolds and expands&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>Theo kept quiet and closed his eyes. He could feel the Presence softly unfold in his inner being. Everything was serene within him. He beheld life, his life, very peacefully and with confidence. An inhabited silence was reigning in the room.<\/p>\n<p>Intended for his old friend, his address was a mere breathed out whisper that said:<\/p>\n<p>\u2013 I&#8217;m longing for a life from the <em><a href=\"https:\/\/theophilelancien.org\/en\/equanimity\/\">sahaj-samadhi<\/a>.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>The Elder only smiled, in an inward response to his young friend&#8217;s restlessness.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/theophilelancien.org\/equanimity-bhakti-yoga\/\"><em>To be continued&#8230;<\/em><\/a><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: right;\">Theophile the Elder<br \/>\nAn excerpt from <em>Dialogs with Theophile the Elder<\/em><br \/>\n<em>Theophile the Younger&#8217;s Initiation<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Theo. \u2013 Last time, you explained that we had to maintain that state of equanimity within ourselves. But you will accept, I guess, that sometimes such a balance may be affected, won&#8217;t you? 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